In Braveheart the film, were William Wallace and his men as rest of Scotland the Celts or Celtic people?
I mean since they marked themselves with Blue paints or whatver they were does that mean they were the native Scottish Celts, or were they more of Germanis as English people were, i assumed they were Celts considering the Passion they the Scottish had and how much they were against the English being in their land, i dont belive they were the same people as English, what ya all think
The Scottish, at that point in history, were a combination of 4 major groups: Indigenous tribes (often called Picts), the Irish Celts of Dal Riada, Germanic raiders/settlers (ie, "vikings"), and some Norman (French).
As language and culture define a Celt, yes, Wallace and his men were Scottish Celts. In fact, one of the primary themes of the stories told about him (true or not) was that he felt many of the Scottish nobles were acting too much like the English (who had become more Germanic than Celtic by that time - in part due to the influence from the old Roman invasion that downplayed some of the Celtic elements in English culture).
The body paint is "commonly known" to be called woad - but there’s actually a reasonable amount of study that shows that woad, quite simply, wouldn’t be able to make the correct color as recorded in the Roman chronicles. There’s a possibility that it was copper, but that’s still speculation.
July 31st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
They werent English, your right about that.
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July 31st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
study the history of the true william wallace and you will find that he was a Celtic Scotsman.
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July 31st, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Yes they were Celts for the most part.
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July 31st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Same as the Irish Celtic.
Tammi Dee
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July 31st, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Being Scottish myself I can honestly say we were Celts; just like the Irish and the Welsh. Historically though we are a mix of Picts, Vikings and Saxons.
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August 1st, 2009 at 12:10 am
they were celts and all Catholics. Protestantism did not exist then.
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August 1st, 2009 at 12:26 am
Celtics, although the nobility of Scotland and England probably intermarried acourding to my understanding.
God Bless
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August 1st, 2009 at 1:09 am
they were scottsmen that by that time were mostly christian. but
steeped in the culture of their past.
the blue paint (Woad) was traditionaly worn by celtic warriors and was a known painkiller and aphrodisiac. the tradition survived the christianisation of scotland.
but no william wallace was not a Celt in that he was not of the religion assiciated with the druids. he was a Christian man and
patriotic scottsman who wanted his country back from the english (especially after they murdered his wife.)
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August 1st, 2009 at 1:16 am
Yes I believe they were indeed Celts.
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August 1st, 2009 at 1:38 am
i think that both wallace and the "original" braveheart -robert the bruce- were both actually descended from french invaders but the men they led were staunch catholic christians who fell to their knees and preyed for gods mercy even though they had a celtic set of customs-.I have never heard of anyone but ancient britons painting themselves with wode- that was something that was probably too cold to do in scotland!The language of the scots and customs which wallace and the other invading noblemen adopted including the clan system can be traced back to pre-christian scotland and were significantly different from the imported saxon customs of england.
In fact all the gaelic languages, scots and irish gaelic, welsh, pictish manx and cornish all have the term saxon "sassenach" as a term of abuse
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