Brave Heart

Nunyo- When Mel Gibson was getting castrated, I felt a little pain down there.

Not at all.

Title says it all. if you’re scottish tell me what you feel about the movie braveheart starring Mel Gibson

not historically correct but entertaining,rob roy with liam neeson better.heard somewhere the french lady braveheart was seeing in the film was actually born a hundred years after he was alive

sources on the internet like wikipedia do i need to site the source of where i got the information from or do i just write why it was inaccurate

Better question then that regarding why your reporting about these things in a "movie" that I’m pretty sure is just that a movie, not a documentary…..right. I think your a little confused regarding what’s just a story and what’s reality. I’m pretty sure Braveheart never based the movie on facts, even though it took you through a certain time in history. So what’s the point on your report? Why not make a report about all the movies that have got innaccurate facts in them regarding history instead of just picking on one movie.

Just one more reason why its important to pay attention during history class.

Was this relationship actually true or made up for the movie?
The Duchess Isabella (wife of Edward II - Queen Consort) told her father in law she was pregnant to William Wallace prior to his death - Was this actually true?

Sadly not. Brilliant movie but other than the fact tht William Wallace existed hardly any of the story is true. Most of it is just dramatised or based on myth x

Braveheart" movie - William Wallace & Duchess of Windsor relationship?
Was this relationship actually true or made up for the movie?
The Duchess Isabella (wife of Edward II - Queen Consort) told her father in law she was pregnant to William Wallace prior to his death - Was this actually true?

No, since Isabella of France, the consort of Edward II, was still a child of nine- or ten-years-old at the time William Wallace died on 23 August 1305, Mel Gibson was fabricating a relationship for the sake of Braveheart’s plot. Isabella (1295-1358) married Edward II at Bologne-sur-Mer, France, on 25 January 1308, and Edward III was born 13 November 1312.

P. S. — How did you get Duchess of Windsor out of this non-relationship? The only Duchess of Windsor was Wallis Simpson (1896-1986), consort of Edward VIII, who abdicated the British throne to become Duke of Windsor? Edward II was, however, the first Prince of Wales. BTW, Wallis Simpson was 40 when she wed the Duke of Windsor in 1936.

Historian Elizabeth Ewan describes Braveheart as a film which "almost totally sacrifices historical accuracy for epic adventure".[23] There are certainly some historical facts which are correct, such as the fact that William Wallace is rumoured to be "Seven feet tall," which he actually was rumoured to be.

The title of the film is also historically inaccurate as the "brave heart" refers in Scottish history to that of Robert the Bruce, and an attribution by William Edmondstoune Aytoun, in his poem Heart of Bruce, to Sir James the Good: "Pass thee first, thou dauntless heart, As thou wert wont of yore!", prior to Douglas’s demise at the Battle of Teba in Andalusia.[24]

Historian Sharon Krossa notes that the film contains numerous historical errors, beginning with the wearing of belted plaid by Wallace and his men. She points out that in the period in question, "… no Scots … wore belted plaids (let alone kilts of any kind)."[25] Moreover, when Highlanders finally did begin wearing the belted plaid, it was not "in the rather bizarre style depicted in the film."[25] She compares the inaccuracy to "… a film about Colonial America showing the colonial men wearing 20th century business suits, but with the jackets worn back-to-front instead of the right way around."[25] She remarks "The events aren’t accurate, the dates aren’t accurate, the characters aren’t accurate, the names aren’t accurate, the clothes aren’t accurate—in short, just about nothing is accurate."[26]

However, there is some evidence that some clothes were dyed plaid long before William Wallace’s time. The museum of Scotland published an article about a piece of cloth, dated about the second century BC, declaring that "the cloth has a simpled check design, an early form of tartan. Such checks were popular among the native population." [27]

Historian Alex von Tunzelmann writing in The Guardian noted several historical inaccuracies: William Wallace never met Princess Isabella, as she married King Edward II three years after Wallace’s death (and was no older than ten when Wallace died); because her marriage to Edward took place after he had ascended the throne, she never held the title Princess of Wales; and the primae noctis decree was never used by King Edward.[28] In 2009, the film was second on a list of "most historically inaccurate movies" in The Times.[29]
Portrayal of Robert the Bruce

The portrayal of Robert I of Scotland (Robert the Bruce) in the film is considered by historians to be wildly inaccurate. In particular his taking the field on the English side in the battle of Falkirk is completely fictitious; Bruce was not present at Falkirk. Although he repeatedly changed alliances between the rebels and the English, mostly for political reasons, Bruce never betrayed Wallace directly, and Wallace was not known to have been a staunch supporter of Bruce. The film’s depiction of the Battle of Stirling Bridge shows the Scots facing off the English on a flat plain on equal terms, when in reality, it took place at a bridge where the outnumbered Scots were able to concentrate their forces on the overextended English who were in the process of crossing the bridge.

In the scene where the farmers are coming back from fighting some of the English in the beginning of the movie when William Wallace was a young boy, there are some strange, different looking cattle/ox that are pulling a wagon with Williams father and brother’s body…. the horns almost make like a circle.

I haven’t seen the movie in awhile but most likely they were English Longhorns. Their horns form almost a C-shape.
http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/cattle/englishlonghorn/index.htm
The English Longhorn originated in northwest and central England and Ireland.
EDIT: To backup my answer, check out what someone else posted on this website: http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=62363&start=45
If you scroll down the page to the 11th comment (in an orange box), you’ll read this:
Re: Anyone had anything to do with this breed?
by BIZIN on Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:10 pm

"I was watching Braveheart last night with the girlfriend and saw these English Longhorns pulling William Wallace’s dead dad and brother on a cart. Just thought I would share!"

"Every man dies, but not every man really lives."

I am wondering is if anyone actually said this in history or if this was just good writing in the movie? Has anyone famous said anythsimilarliar?

Thanks.

I too like this quote from Braveheart. And yes, plenty of famous people have said something similar.

“Many people die with their music still in them. Why is this so? Too often it is because they are always getting ready to live. Before they know it, time runs out.” ~Oliver Wendell Holmes

“As you grow older, you’ll find the only things you regret are the things you didn’t do.” ~Zachary Scott

“It is not death that a man should fear, but he should fear never beginning to live.” Marcus Aurelius Antoninus

“To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all.” Oscar Wilde

“There are but three events in a man’s life: birth, life, and death. He is not conscious of being born, he dies in pain, and he forgets to live.” ~Jean de la Bruyère

“Men for the sake of getting a living forget to live.” ~Margaret Fuller

“Fear not that life shall come to an end, but rather fear that it shall never have a beginning.” ~John Henry Cardinal Newman

“Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once.”
~William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar, 1600

“May you live all the days of your life.” ~Jonathan Swift

“Life is not long, and too much of it must not pass in idle deliberation how it shall be spent.” ~Samuel Johnson

“We are always getting ready to live but never living.” ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.” ~Mark Twain

“What good to us is a long life if it is difficult and barren of joys, and if it is so full of misery that we can only welcome death as a deliverer?” Sigmund Freud

“Lord, let me live until I die.” Will Rogers

“Be not afraid of life. Believe that life is worth living, and your belief will help create the fact.” Henry James

"The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it." ~Author unknown, sometimes attributed to W.M. Lewis

“You don’t get to choose how you’re going to die. Or when. You can only decide how you’re going to live. Now.” ~Joan Baez

“Only when we are no longer afraid do we begin to live.” Dorothy Thompson

“Our care should not be to have lived long as to have lived enough.” Seneca

Can you recomend me some good novel with the similar plot (and place) like that in the movie Braveheart?
Thank you!
You could read the book that the movie Braveheart was based on.
The author is Randall Wallace.

Droit de seigneur - the right of the lord.